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by nyong
Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:48 pm
Forum: Vlaams
Topic: Belgian Pronouns
Replies: 6
Views: 11820

Re: Belgian Pronouns

On facebook, lots of people use "jij" (might even be more common than "gij", but I of course haven't seen a very representative selection of facebook profiles), and it's really weird. My guess is that a lot of people (unconsciously?) try to use "better" language than they normally would because a l...
by nyong
Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:08 am
Forum: Verbs
Topic: German vs Dutch Regular Verbs
Replies: 5
Views: 10623

Plural formal

Dutch - maken Singular Informal: jij maakt; Singular Formal: u maakt Plural Informal: jullie maken; Plural Formal: u maakt German - machen Singular Informal: du machst ; Singular Formal: Sie machen Plural Informal: ihr macht; Plural Formal: Sie machen In German, if you have a group of two people, o...
by nyong
Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:53 pm
Forum: Verbs
Topic: Je hebt vs. je heb
Replies: 6
Views: 36751

U hebt

JazzedPotato wrote:Je hoort ook vaak 'hun hebbe(n)' wat helemaal fout is aangezien 'hun' uiteraard nooit het onderwerp kan zijn.. :? :roll:
In the 19th century using u as a subject also caused some people to :? and :roll:, because u was only accepted as an object in the standard language then. :)
by nyong
Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:14 am
Forum: Vlaams
Topic: Belgian Pronouns
Replies: 6
Views: 11820

Re: Belgian Pronouns

Bedankt! @Quetzal I knew that gij had u(w) as its object/possessive form. What I didn't know was whether the use of u as a subject as "foreign" was as the use of jij in the spoken language for Flemings. I read that in the Netherlands u only started to be used as a subject in the end of the 19th cent...
by nyong
Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:04 am
Forum: Vlaams
Topic: F-V-(W) | CH-G | S-Z
Replies: 5
Views: 10007

Re: F-V-(W) | CH-G | S-Z

Dank u Grytolle! Du bist toll! :) I (still) find it hard to distinguish the voiced g and the voiceless ch when I hear them, much less to reproduce them myself. But I'm going to listen to more Flemish clips. :) Btw, isn't it supposed to be gij doe t ? gij doe toch altijd zo dom => gij doe tog-altij-(...
by nyong
Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:34 am
Forum: Pronouns
Topic: Another form of you?
Replies: 28
Views: 40079

Re: gij, ge waart

Dank u! normal tussentaal (Brabantic and standard language influence) has lost the -d/-t except in "gij waard" and by inversion with the pronoun -e: waarde gij liepte gij zatte gij kwamde/kwaamde gij etc Is it still unusual to hear: liep gij zat gij kwam/kwaam gij waart gij in the spoken language? D...
by nyong
Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:28 am
Forum: Vlaams
Topic: Koomt (gij, ge)
Replies: 6
Views: 9818

Re: Koomt (gij, ge)

Bedankt guys!
Grytolle wrote:"gij koomd" would be a new form to me, but I suppose it doesn't seem illogical... I don't know how widespread it is, but Antwerpian has this conjugation in the present tense: ik koom, gij komd, hij komd; wij kome(n), golle komd, zun kome(n)
Ik koom? Is it a typo?
by nyong
Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:19 pm
Forum: Pronouns
Topic: hun of zij?
Replies: 5
Views: 9878

Re: hun of zij?

Overal zie ik dat iedereen " hun" verkeerd gebruikt en iedereen neemt zonder zelf na te denken deze fout over. waarom doen we dat, mensen? " Dat is hun fout" , ZIJ maken de fout, zij lopen , zij fietsen , zij gaan . " Dat is helemaal goed. Op de basisschool krijgen we in 2009 te horen dat taal niet...
by nyong
Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:58 am
Forum: Vlaams
Topic: Koomt (gij, ge)
Replies: 6
Views: 9818

Koomt!

How about the imperative?

Do you say "Koomt!" in Belgium?
by nyong
Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:39 am
Forum: Vlaams
Topic: Koomt (gij, ge)
Replies: 6
Views: 9818

Re: Koomt (gij, ge)

I found out that you actually say gij koomt. Same thing with gij moogt.
Groetjes
by nyong
Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:18 am
Forum: Vlaams
Topic: F-V-(W) | CH-G | S-Z
Replies: 5
Views: 10007

F-V-(W) | CH-G | S-Z

Hi! Most of the Flemish speakers I've heard made an easily noticeable voiced pronunciation of V and Z (in opposition to the voiceless F and S, respectively) The word Vlaams for example sounds much more like vlaams instead of flaams to English ears. My questions: 1) Does this mean that the pronunciat...
by nyong
Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:13 am
Forum: Vlaams
Topic: Belgian Pronouns
Replies: 6
Views: 11820

Belgian Pronouns

Hi! I've got some questions about the pronouns in Belgium: 1) Since u(w) is used irrespective of formality or politeness, does it mean that you also use gij / ge regardless of the level of familiarity with the interlocutor? Thus something like you , which is used practically for everybody in English...
by nyong
Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:57 am
Forum: Vlaams
Topic: Koomt (gij, ge)
Replies: 6
Views: 9818

Koomt (gij, ge)

Hi! Following the explanation Grytolle wonderfully gave (gij: plural stem +t), do you actually hear/say koomt ge ? Gij-forms generally uses a plural stem, which is completely logical, since gij used to be a plural: kunnen => kun -nen -> kunt "je was"-->"ge waart" "je zou"-->"ge zoudt" "je werd"-->"g...
by nyong
Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:45 am
Forum: Pronouns
Topic: Another form of you?
Replies: 28
Views: 40079

gij, ge waart

Irregular verb: jij was - gij waart It's not irregular in the sense that it follows the general rule of gij -conjugation. Gij-forms generally uses a plural stem, which is completely logical, since gij used to be a plural: kunnen => kun -nen -> kunt "je was"-->"ge waart" "je zou"-->"ge zoudt" "je we...
by nyong
Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:52 pm
Forum: Verbs
Topic: Hij hebt
Replies: 3
Views: 6960

Re: Hij hebt

It might have been hij heb or hij het. In fact, I was listening to a preacher from Amsterdam and he did it quite frequently, which is why it sort of stayed in my mind.

Bedankt!