Basics!

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According to many, the word order is one of the hardest parts of the Dutch language. If you are also struggling with subordinate clauses, inversion and the like, this is the place to be.
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Basics!

Post by samsam » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:28 pm

Hallo!

Im a newbie to this forum (and dutch in general), ive been learning dutch now for a couple of weeks, and when it comes to writing sentences, i struggle on word order.

Can anyone shed some light on basic word order (bearing in mind, i'm no master at english grammar either!) that would be much appreciated :D

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Re: Basics!

Post by BrutallyFrank » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:18 pm

Try this part of the forum: viewforum.php?f=10
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Re: Basics!

Post by samsam » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:43 pm

Not sure if that was a joke or not... but o'well. :roll:

I am aware that there is plenty of posts mostly relating to my topic, but i would like someone to briefly start from the basics of it.

Where as i've mostly seen things on here that's not quite what i'm looking for at this stage!


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Re: Basics!

Post by mister » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:24 am

Two weeks in and you think you are struggling on word order? Such a simple question you ask...maar... not a simple answer.

What word order do you want to know?

I know you don't know what you don't know...maar... there is no simple answer.

Eg. Heb je... is a question, terwijl, U hebt is a statement. Do you know why? Do you know why heb is heb, or hebt, or heeft or hebben?

The simplest word order rule is... small verb at the front means full verb at the end. Kan, heb, etc at the front means full verb, infinitive, at the end. Good rule for short sentences. Otherwise... ay yi yi...

So, start your word order reading here http://www.dutchgrammar.com/en/?n=WordOrder.00

For me, listening and reading gives me a better feel for word order. I'm still not that good. I nail maybe only 20% of my writing, about 50% I get a couple word wrong so they need to be swapped.

Go through the link above as a start...

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Re: Basics!

Post by ngonyama » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:36 am

Maybe the simplest is to start with inversions. They happen in a question:

Hij gaat naar huis - he goe home
Gaat hij naar huis? - Is he going home?

But it can also happen if something is put at the front of the sentence that normally comes later. This is often done for emphasis:

Hij gaat morgen naar huis - He is going home tomorrow
Morgen gaat hij naar huis. - Tomorrow he is going home

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Re: Basics!

Post by samsam » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:00 am

Thanks for your reply's!

I have started on and have started to get some knowledge on past, present, future tenses and how they change from 1st , 2nd 3rd person, as you were saying Heb, Hebt, Heeft, Hebben etc.

Still not 100% on it but its starting to make sense slowly.

Inversions is still new to me, as well as sub clauses and main clauses.

I have briefly read that in a sub clause the verb comes at the end?

Ik weet het niet!

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Re: Basics!

Post by BrutallyFrank » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:36 pm

samsam wrote:Not sure if that was a joke or not... but o'well. :roll:
I'm disappointed that you see it that way ...

Your question just wasn't specific enough for me to answer. It was already getting a bit late so I thought that, with 'zelfredzaamheid' in mind, a link could direct you to the answer you needed. Now that I see the link mister posted, I know that it is possible to get to the old forum. I couldn't find that part so I posted the nearest thing ...
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Re: Basics!

Post by samsam » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:49 pm

BrutallyFrank wrote:
samsam wrote:Not sure if that was a joke or not... but o'well. :roll:
I'm disappointed that you see it that way ...

Your question just wasn't specific enough for me to answer. It was already getting a bit late so I thought that, with 'zelfredzaamheid' in mind, a link could direct you to the answer you needed. Now that I see the link mister posted, I know that it is possible to get to the old forum. I couldn't find that part so I posted the nearest thing ...

No it's fine! The other replies helped a lot so ill go from there.


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