Steeds minder getrouwden en steeds meer gescheiden (personen?)

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An adjective says something about a noun or person: E.g. "the beautiful story" or "She is happy".
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Steeds minder getrouwden en steeds meer gescheiden (personen?)

Post by k.tihanyi » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:12 pm

Hi,

It is possible to use the adjective derived from a past participle independently, e.g.:
de getrouwde koppels -> de getrouwden
But what about the past participle which ends on –en? Is in this case this independent usage not possible at all?
E.g.:
de gescheiden koppels -> ?
Which would be the best way to formulate for example the below statement:
“Steeds minder getrouwden en steeds meer gescheiden (personen?)”
Let’s suppose that I would like just to speak about the number of the persons and not about the number of “de huwelijken/scheidingen”.

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Re: Steeds minder getrouwden en steeds meer gescheiden (personen?)

Post by ngonyama » Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:38 am

You can use gescheidenen. Past prtc on -en don't get an inflection in attributive use:

:de man is gescheiden
:de gescheiden man

But used as a noun you do add -e:

De gescheidene
De gescheidenen.

The plural -n is only added if the word refers to persons.

However, words like these suffer from the Christmas Tree effect: too many ornaments threaten to bring down the tree. This is why they are often avoided and replaced by a periphrase like "gescheiden personen" or so.

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