ZIJN HET of ZIJN DAT?

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ZIJN HET of ZIJN DAT?

Post by rhino514 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:02 pm

How would one say in response to "het afwaschmachine doet het afwas en Gert kookt"

is it quite uncommon (is it rare) that both of these things happen? (i.e. Are both of these things unusual?-as a funny remark)

Would it be "zijn het (of zijn dat)" allebei (of al)ongewoon?"


also, could one use "deze" or "die" instead of "het" or "dat" since they are in fact plural
, and what would be more common?


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Re: ZIJN HET of ZIJN DAT?

Post by rednas » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:38 pm

rhino514 wrote:How would one say in response to "De het afwaschmachine doet de het afwas en Gert kookt."

is it quite uncommon (is it rare) that both of these things happen? (i.e. Are both of these things unusual?-as a funny remark)

Would it be "zijn het (of zijn dat)" allebei (of al)ongewoon?"


also, could one use "deze" or "die" instead of "het" or "dat" since they are in fact plural
, and what would be more common?


bedankt!

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Translation: "Is het vrij ongewoon dat beiden gebeuren?"
I didn't really understand the question. I can give you more information if you clarify it a bit.

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Re: ZIJN HET of ZIJN DAT?

Post by Bert » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:26 pm

I think I can understand his question. :)

In my opinion only 'het' is acceptable:

"Is het vrij ongewoon dat beiden gebeuren?" ((c) rednas :)) [but I would use 'beide' instead of 'beiden' because they're not persons, however, it's not really important]

In another construction, as I think, you can use 'ze':

"Zijn ze beide ongewone gebeurtenissen?" - but this is too formal.

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Re: ZIJN HET of ZIJN DAT?

Post by Bert » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:03 pm

Also, if you don't want to use 'beide' or 'allebei':

"Zijn deze/die gebeurtenissen ongewoon?"

(Are these/those events uncommon?)

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Re: ZIJN HET of ZIJN DAT?

Post by Quetzal » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:39 pm

rhino514 wrote:How would one say in response to "het afwaschmachine doet het afwas en Gert kookt"

is it quite uncommon (is it rare) that both of these things happen? (i.e. Are both of these things unusual?-as a funny remark)

Would it be "zijn het (of zijn dat)" allebei (of al)ongewoon?"


also, could one use "deze" or "die" instead of "het" or "dat" since they are in fact plural
, and what would be more common?


bedankt!

J
I'm gonna go with "Zijn dat allebei ongewone gebeurtenissen?", or else "Zijn beide zaken ongewoon?", but considering how strange a question this is, it's not surprising the answers are all over the place. :P

What you should note is that neither "zijn het" nor "zijn dat" is possible unless there is a noun further in the sentence that functions as predicate.

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Re: ZIJN HET of ZIJN DAT?

Post by rhino514 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:08 pm

So it looks as if both het and dat are possible.
Thanks for the clarification about the predicate, that is EXTREMELY useful.

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