Ik of me.

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Ik of me.

Post by bhanano12 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:28 pm

Hij komt uit hetzelfde land als ik.

Is it possible to use me/mij instead of ik in this sentence as they are object pronouns and ik is subject pronoun.

Many thanks in advance

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Re: Ik of me.

Post by Bert » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:56 pm

bhanano12 wrote:Hij komt uit hetzelfde land als ik.

Is it possible to use me/mij instead of ik in this sentence
No, it isn't.

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Re: Ik of me.

Post by bhanano12 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:29 am

Many thanks Bert for the reply, is there an explanation for this and how if I say,

Hij komt van hetzelfde land als me.

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Re: Ik of me.

Post by Bert » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:03 pm

Ngonyama can give you an explanation (I simply accept the rules).
You can only say: Hij komt uit hetzelfde land als ik. So no van, no mij. :)
When I was younger I made the same mistake (Jan komt van ...) and a native speaker corrected the sentence. Since then I use uit. The tricky is the following:
- Waar kom je vandaan?
- Ik kom uit Hongarije.

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Re: Ik of me.

Post by ngonyama » Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:35 am

Mij is strictly an object pronoun.

In:

Hij komt uit hetzelfde land als ik.

Both "hij" and "ik" are subject. You can always check that by adding a verb

Hij komt uit hetzelfde land als ik (kom).

"Mij" can only be used in something like:

De agent zag hem en ook mij.

Here both "hem" and "mij" are direct objects of the verb "zag".

The clitic form "me" cannot be used at all in such constructions, because they automatically put emphasis on the pronoun. "Me" never carries emphasis.

All this is different from English where you can say:

Who did that? -- Me!

In Dutch you cannot do that:

Wie heeft dat gedaan? -- Ik!

If you really want to emphasize, people would say -- "Ikke!"

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Re: Ik of me.

Post by bhanano12 » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:33 am

:-D ngonyama, dank u, als het een duidelijke uitleg is.

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