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Twenty Questions Game

Post by Tom » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:19 am

Here is a game that I played when I was a kid. It is called “twenty questions”. I am not exactly sure if it is called the “Ja/Nee Spel” in Dutch.

There may be variations of the game, but I will present the rules I am accustomed to.

I will start by giving you the first clue. Usually it is a basic statement about what the initiator (in this case – me) is thinking about. Since we are in general beginners in Dutch, let’s keep it simple and reasonably universal.

Twenty Yes/No questions are then allowed. A guess of what I am thinking about is counted as a question.

After every 5 questions, I will give another clue. The sequence is as follows:
Clue, 20, 19, 18, 17, 16
Clue, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11
Clue, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6
Clue, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

To try to give everyone a chance to play, I ask that you limit your questions to 2 per day.

Ask your question as well as you can in Dutch. Then ask your question in English.

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Eerste Spoor:
First Clue:

Het is een dier.
It is an animal.

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Post by EetSmakelijk » Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:01 am

Hallo, Tom. I am not starting to guess yet because I am a little confused.
Am I supposed to guess different animals, or am I supposed to ask questions about the animal?
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Sample Session

Post by Tom » Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:30 am

Hallo Eet Smakelijk,

You ask questions about the thing that I am thinking about, to which I will respond with a "Ja of Nee" - "Yes or No" answer. Better the choice of questions, the faster you can "home in" on the answer.

For example,
I am thinking of a singer.

Question 1 - Is it a man?
Answer 1 - Yes

You have now narrowed the possibilites in half.

Question 2 - Is he still alive?
Answer 2 - No.

Question 3 - Did he sing Rock and Roll songs.
Answer 3 - No.

Question 4 - Is he still popular?
Answer 4 - Yes. His recordings are still quite popular.

Question 5 - Does he sing mostly in English?
Answer 5 - Yes.

New Clue:
You often hear his songs at weddings in America.

Question 6 - Is he of Italian decent?
Answer 6 - Yes.

Question 7 - Is he Perry Como?
Answer 7 - No.

Question 8 - Did he have blue eyes?
Answer 8 - Yes.

Question 9 - Is he Frank Sinatra?
Answer 9 - Yes! You have won!

That is basically the English version of how it goes.

I don't plan to use things that are only particular to one country since that might exclude some people from playing. That is why a chose an animal.

I am trying to come up with ways to get people to speak Dutch with a purpose. It seems to be more interesting than writing sentences at random. Sometimes when you do something for a reason it sticks in you head more than writing things like "See Jane run."

If we really want to learn, at some point we have to transition from spectators to practitioners. Regardless of how simple the sentences.

Tom

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Post by Marco » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:01 pm

Hey Tom! I have that game and I love it! It's called '20 Questions' here as well (English, yes) but the clues are in Dutch. Maybe I could try that one out in het Nederlandse hoekje! :)

Oh wait - I see now that 'my' game is abit different, it goes like this:

There's a card that says, let's say 'Londen'

One person is in control of this card and other ones have to guess what the card says. They have 20 clues to guess it.

You say a number, let's say '14'.

The person with the card reads the clue out loud
('Zonder mijn bruggen zou ik verscheurd zijn' / without my bridges I'd be torn apart) and the others may guess what the answer is. This goes on until the answer is guessed correctly.

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Post by Tom » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:39 pm

Hi Marco,

That sounds fun as well. Plus the clues are already prepared on the card.

Would you mind starting a topic with that game, since you own it.

Could you call it "Twenty Clues" since the players are really given the clues directly and not having to develop the questions themselves. This way we can keep the two styles of the game distint.

I guess I thought that games to help people practice fell under "study aids". I thought the other sections were more for questions, answers, clarifications and conversations ....

Sometimes, there is no best place. This whole forum is a Nederlandse Hoekje.

Anyway, I think it would be another fun game, and would appreciate if you could start a game off. I think others would appreciate it also.

Thanks,
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Post by Marco » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:43 pm

Oh, yeah sure, I will! Cool! 8)

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Post by EetSmakelijk » Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:08 pm

Hallo Tom. Is het groot? Is it big?
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Nee, Antwoord Nummer 20

Post by Tom » Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:09 pm

Nee. Hij is niet groot. ...of...
Groot is hij niet.
No. It is not big.

Eigenlijk is hij kleiner dan een mens.
Actually, it is smaller than a person. (I gave you an extra clue since I assumed "big" meant bigger than we are.)

That was Question / Answer number 20
The next will be number 19.

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Post by Nathalie » Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:44 pm

Hello Tom,

Kan het dier zwemmen ? :)

Can the animal swim?


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Nummer 19

Post by Tom » Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:06 pm

Ja, zwemmen kan hij wel.
Yes, he is a good swimmer. :)

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Post by Bieneke » Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:09 pm

Is het een zoogdier?
Is it a mammal?
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Nummer 18

Post by Tom » Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:15 pm

Ja, inderdaad is hij een zoogdier.
Yes, he indeed is a mammal. :D

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Post by jimmy » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:57 pm

Is het een Vis
This is a good game and im sure this will help me learn Dutch
cheers guys....
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Nummer 17

Post by Tom » Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:52 pm

Sorry, hoor. :cry:
Gosh, I am sorry. ... Sorry, ya know. Boy, I am sorry.

'Hoor' can have many many translations. It has an intensifying or reinforcing type quality.
Leuk hoor! - VERY funny! (with a strong emphasis on VERY when spoken)
Niet doen hoor! - Mind you, don't do it!
Nee hoor! - Perish the thought! No, for sure (California valley girl). No way Jose.
...

Nee, hij is een vis niet, want hij is een soort zoogdier.
Nee, het is geen vis, want het is een soort zoogdier.
No, it is not a fish, because it is a type of mammal.

the verb "zogen" = suckle = nurse = breastfeed
dier = animal
thus an animal that used to "suckle" when it was young
is a suckle-animal = zoogdier.
If I can find similarities between Dutch and English words and
lay them out like this, it helps me to remember them. Sometimes I
get a surprise like "Oh, that is where we (English speakers) got that word from! :o

If you just tried to learn the word zoogdier by pure memorization, it would probably bore you to death. That is why I think this game can help, our mind focuses on the game, yet behind the scenes, we are training it in vocabulary, grammar and spelling ... not to mention, sometimes colloquialisms and idioms.

Let's not tell our mind that. Let's let it keep focusing on the game. :wink:

Groetjes,
Tom

Blauw = Blue = Corrections made with the help of Bieneke. - Bedankt Bien :)
Donker Rood = Dark Red = my original version. :cry:
I am leaving the original in place so others may learn something from my mistakes. :oops:
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Post by Bieneke » Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:32 pm

Small correction:
Nee, hij is een vis niet, want hij is een soort zoogdier.
The correct phrase is: "Nee, het is geen vis, want.." (or: "Nee, hij is niet een vis").

Since the animal is unknown to us, we refer to it by the pronoun 'het'. If it turns out to be a 'de-noun', we will use 'hij'.
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