"Woorden"

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"Woorden"

Post by christian Irving » Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:19 am

hoi allemaal!

Vanavond heb ik veel meer problemen met m'n nederlands. :cry:

Ik heb de page over pastvoice geleest maar nog ben(word) ik heel wervard?? Voor de zin he is still a bit stunned is het hij wordt nog een beetje schokte?? Dank jullie wel!!!!:)

(en zeg me als mijn nederlands onjuist was!!!)

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Re: "Woorden"

Post by ngonyama » Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:26 am

christian Irving wrote:hoi allemaal!

Vanavond heb ik veel meer problemen met m'n nederlands. :cry:

Ik heb de page over pastvoice?Passive voice? geleestgelezen maar nog ben(word) ik heel wervardverward?? Voor de zin he is still a bit stunned is het hij wordtis nog een beetje schoktegeschokt?? Dank jullie wel!!!!:)

(en zeg me als mijn nederlands onjuist was!!!)
The problem here is that in English you can use to be in different ways and the same can be said about Dutch. And no they do not always correspond... I remember that that was very confusing for me too when learning English...

In some case we use is in exactly the same way. Particularly if you can replace it with an equal sign =

Igor is a dog - Igor is een hond
The car is red - de auto is rood

The word shocked you used falls in this category. Shocked, red, all the same: they are adjectives


But if you have a verb with a direct object and flip it around it gets confusing.

De man verkoopt een rode auto - the man sells a red car
De rode auto wordt door de man verkocht - the red car is sold by the man

Yes you can also use is in Dutch here, but in a different meaning:

De rode auto is verkocht door de man - the red car HAS BEEN sold by the man

Both describe an action that took place in the past. However if you just look at the end result you are back at the adjective:

De auto is verkocht - the car is sold.

Confusing, I know...

Actually I think it is the English that is confusing, because "the car is sold" could mean either that it is being sold or that it has been sold... In Dutch it is only the latter. English is rather illogical:

In English if a car is sold in a garage, it is not sold.

Yet.

In Nederlands als een auto verkocht is in een garage dan is de auto verkocht. Period.

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Post by Joke » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:07 am

This post might also help: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3044&p=18705#p18705

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Post by christian Irving » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:28 pm

Dabk je wel het is nu veel duidelijker!!:) maar waaneer moet je "was" zeggen? Kunt je " de auto was(!!!) verkocht door de man uit? (was that correct use of uitverkocht?) I often I think that the passive voice is just a present word with a past tence verb. "Is verkocht" Would this be correct?

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Post by ngonyama » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:14 pm

De auto was verkocht door de man -> The car HAD been sold by the man

Dit type auto is uitverkocht - This type of car has been sold out.

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