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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:56 am
by Sue
Bieneke wrote:Moving twice in such a short time span, you must have steel nerves :wink:

When you find out more about your classes, do let us know!

Groetjes,
Bieneke
Well the latest is that I have still not found a course.

I got an e-mail from the ROC to tell me to go to their offices to find out what courses they have (why they can't e-mail them to me, I don't know!). I went there and they told me to come back another day because there was no one to help me! The receptionist couldn't even tell me what courses they had! Not got much faith in them.

I e-mailed the embassy and explained the situation and they sent me a list of courses, none in my province! Very useful!

I looked on a few websites that I found in the phone book and the only one that I found that was for adults and didn't cost €1000 per week for intensive course was the ROC one.

I am trying to intergrate into this country - but people aren't making this easy for me.

Sue :x

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:10 pm
by Bieneke
Wow, that must be so frustrating.

On the website of ROC-Twente, http://www.rocvantwente.nl, you can find an overview of the courses offered in Almelo, Hengelo, and Enschede.

It was not easy to find the page that gives information about NT2 in Almelo, but I eventually found it here. On this page, you can click on 'Aanvragen informatie' for more information.

I must say the ROC websites are not very easy to navigate through if you do not understand Dutch. I wonder how many non-Dutch speakers manage to find the right information on the ROC websites.

Good luck with your quest, Sue!

[edit: since the page above is in Dutch (how very useful, if you are looking for a Dutch course :roll:), I added a summary of the text below. ]

From: www.roctwenteplus.nl/frameset.asp?page= ... 0&menu=1=1.

Language School (NT-2)
In our Language School, we offer courses in Dutch as a Second Language (NT-2) for immigration from the age of 18 years old.

Integrated trajects
The NT-2 courses are part of the so-called "geïntegreerde trajecten". This means that the Dutch classes are combined with professional (vocational) courses and that you are trained to apply your Dutch skills in practical (professional) situations. This facilitates the proces of language acquisition.

Dual traject
You can combine your Dutch classes with other courses (e.g. the course 'ouderbetrokkenheid' or 'Parental involvement: "What does my child learn at school?"'. This is called a 'dual' traject.

Tailor-made NT2-2 courses for companies
These courses are aimed at employees who cannot perform properly due to a lack of Dutch language skills.

Computer as a study aid
We use computers, both in the classroom and in the Open Leer Centrum (a place where you can study by yourself but where there is always an instructor around to assist you).

Locations
Educatief Centrum Nijverdal
Educatief Centrum Rijssen
Educatief Centrum Almelo en regio

Contact
Tel. 0546 80 1610
info@rocvantwente.nl

Re: Difference between NT2 and CNaVT and what you need it for

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:02 pm
by thodoris7
Bieneke wrote:  
CNaVT
The CNaVT is for students who wish to study Dutch abroad. In virtually all countries where Dutch is taught, the possibility to do the official exam is offered once a year. You can choose between four 'profiles':
1. tourism and information ("toeristische en informatieve taalvaardigheid")
2. general Dutch language ("maatschappelijke taalvaardigheid")
3. professional Dutch language ("professionele taalvaardigheid")
4. academic Dutch language ("academische taalvaardigheid")
For each profile, you will be tested on four skills: reading, writing, listening and speaking.
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So,IF I PASS THE EXAMS  :D ,did the CNaVT have any value if i want to work in Netherland or in Belgium or i must give exams for another certification?

Best regards

Thodoris

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:46 pm
by Bieneke
Hoi Thodoris,

For you to work in the Netherlands, it is not compulsory to pass the NT2 Staatsexamen. It is only necessary for certain jobs (e.g. for the government). With a CNaVT, you can prove to potential employers that you have a sufficient level of Dutch.

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:21 pm
by thodoris7
Ik heb CNaVT certificaat (profiel Toeristische en Informele Taalvaardigheid)  :lol:

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:18 pm
by Bieneke
Gefeliciteerd en proficiat en hoera!
Congratulations (Dutch) and congratulations (Flemish) and hurray!

Sorry voor mijn late reactie.
Ga je binnenkort weer naar Nederland?

Sorry for my late response.
Will you be going to Holland again soon?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:15 pm
by thodoris7
Bieneke wrote:Gefeliciteerd en proficiat en hoera!
Congratulations (Dutch) and congratulations (Flemish) and hurray!

Sorry voor mijn late reactie.
Ga je binnenkort weer naar Nederland?

Sorry for my late response.
Will you be going to Holland again soon?
dank je wel.

I am thinking to open a greek cafe but I want to find what I need exactly.The permissions.
Can someone help me?

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:27 pm
by snowbunny
Hello,

I wish to become a Dutch citizen via naturalisation through marriage to a Dutchman, and plan to study Dutch outside the Netherlands.  I know that I must score a "2" on the language exams (reading, writing, speaking, listening) and pass cultural exams (which are probably in Dutch).

Are there any online or correspondence courses that anyone can recommend?

Which is more likely, winning the Tour de France or passing the Dutch exams?   :-P

I am not sure where we will live in future but for now live in Texas because I share custody of my two daughters by my first marriage with their American father.  After they are 18, I can move where I like, but I want to start learning Dutch now (I have about ten years until the youngest is 18 ).

Groetjes,
Amy.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:59 pm
by Bieneke
thodoris7 wrote:I am thinking to open a greek cafe but I want to find what I need exactly.The permissions.
Can someone help me?
Hallo Thodoris,

If you want to open a cafe in the Netherlands, you have to get a certificate called 'cafebedrijf', which proves that you have sufficient know-how (about law, hygiene and safety, accounting, etc.) to start your own cafe. You can contact the Horeca  Stichting Nederland (stichting = non profit organization) for more information. See also http://www.hsn-horeca.nl/.
snowbunny wrote:Are there any online or correspondence courses that anyone can recommend?

Which is more likely, winning the Tour de France or passing the Dutch exams?  
Haha! I am quite sure you will be able to pass the Dutch exams if you work hard enough. ;-)

There is a correspondence course that looks interesting to me, yet I have not read any reviews about it on this forum: Digidutch (http://www.sayitindutch.com/courses/digidutch.html). The author of the course also maintains a website with a weblog (with sound files).

This is what she writes about the DigiDutch correspondence course on her website:

"Every week a pleasant Dutch conversation lesson will arrive in your mailbox. It comes as a message in html (50 kb maximum). In this lesson you will find many small sound-bytes. They teach you to understand and speak everyday Dutch! It's fun!
Dialogues, questions & answers, examples, expressions, exercises, grammar and even complete Dutch pop songs are provided. You will have direct contact with your Dutch teacher in The Netherlands by email. She will help you, give you feedback on your work and answer all your questions. You will achieve a good beginners level of Dutch after completion of the course."


I have no idea if it is a good course but judging from the rest of her website, I expect it to be interesting and entertaining. If anyone has tried it, just let us know.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:48 pm
by thodoris7
Thank you Bieneke for your response
Is  www.hsn-horeca.nl/ have informations in english language?

Re: NT2 and Nederlands als Vreemde Taal (NavT)

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:43 pm
by pieter.gr
I have heard that obtaining the NT2-II diploma acquits you of any obligation to go through inburgeringsexamen. I will use the diploma for study purposes in The Netherlands as well as when I go register myself to the local town hall. It should be enough, shouldn't it.

Re: NT2 and Nederlands als Vreemde Taal (NavT)

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:23 am
by Vicky
pieter.gr wrote:I have heard that obtaining the NT2-II diploma acquits you of any obligation to go through inburgeringsexamen. I will use the diploma for study purposes in The Netherlands as well as when I go register myself to the local town hall. It should be enough, shouldn't it.
You are an EU citizen, I believe, so you don't have to do the inburgeringsexamen. But maybe if you want to obtain a Dutch citizenship then maybe you have to. Indeed, NT2 diploma is enough to request the Dutch passport but after a certain time you live here in The Netherlands.

Cheers,

Vicky

Re: NT2 and Nederlands als Vreemde Taal (NavT)

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 3:53 pm
by pieter.gr
Yes, I am an EU citizen and that is what I intend to do. After having lived in The Netherlands for five years I plan to apply for the Dutch citizenship. Glad, there is another useful function of NT2! :-D

Re: NT2 and Nederlands als Vreemde Taal (NavT)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:34 am
by samelion001
you should take a look at a ROC (Regionaal Opleidingscentrum) where they also teach NT2. I think you'll have the most chance being able to do the NT2 test over there and getting information.Pauline when did you start learning Dutch? And how did your progress in the language go?

And what's Programma 2 and why was it difficult?


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Re: NT2 and Nederlands als Vreemde Taal (NavT)

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:52 am
by daavidfischer
I am very much interested to learn the Dutch language. I am already proficient in English, French, Hindi and few regional languages. You have specified that we will have to be in Netherlands to write the exam. Could you please let me know if I can study from abroad and write the exams also at home without having to visit Netherlands? Please mention if online exams are available. Thanks!
David Fischer
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