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Help for centrale examens

NT2 is 'Nederlands als Tweede Taal' or 'Dutch as a second language. 'Inburgering' is 'integration'. Many people who settle in the Netherlands have to do the 'inburgeringsexamen' or 'Staatsexamen NT2'. In this subforum, you can ask questions about this exam. If you have already done the exam, you are warmly invited to share your experience with us!

Help for centrale examens

Postby Monica » March 18th, 2010, 2:22 pm

Hello everyone

Im preparing myself for the inburgering exam, now the question I have is which elektronisch praktikexamen is the "easier one" to do? I live in Belgium and eventhough I've worked here for a couple of years, I think some situations and practical experiences are different in Nederland.
Can anyone recommend me one of the four? I would think work or onderwijs-gezondheid en opvoeding would be the easier ones.

And to study in general for the centrale examen, I have heard that the most difficult part is the nazeggen, is that true? what type of questions do you encounter? I saw someone from Peru was going to send some examples but that was in 2008,, anyone?

Thank you very much, I really need to study in a bit of a hurry, since I need to present the exams by end May, and then hope to have the pasport by end year, since we will be moving by then and would make all more complicated

Thanks again

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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby adappel » March 18th, 2010, 5:26 pm

There is no big difference for the different "elekronische praktijkexamens".
You can test yourself in this website:
http://www.inburgeren.nl/inburgeraar/ex ... examen.asp
You can see which exam is easy for you.
Also for the part of KNS you make a test exam in this website.

If you want to check and practise your capacity for the Toets Gesproken Nederlands (TGN) = "nazeggen"
you can buy a 'black box' at INTERTAAL.
In this black box there are 18 'imitation-exams'.
http://www.intertaal.nl/xportal/default ... rtnr=15698

If you want to know if you will pass this part of the exam ( nazeggen ) , send me a personal message.
I can tell you if you need to worry or not.
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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby buitenlandernomore » March 20th, 2010, 2:02 pm

Good day,

I am currently having my integration in the Netherlands. I have been here for 6 months. Recently, I have received a schedule for my "Centrale examen". But it is stated there that I have to take 3 exams, EPE A2 Werk (Elektronisch Praktijk Examen A2 WErk), KNS (Kennis van de Nederlandse Samenleving) and TGN (Toets Gesproken Nederlands). And ofcourse the Praktijk examen for the Portfolio. I am bit confused about the 3 exams, especially on the TGN. As what I know before I went to the Netherlands I took the TGN exam for the basisexamen inburgering for the MVV, and I think even the KNS was part of that exam. And that you only have to retake the TGN exam if your score is below 36 points. My teacher in the capabel taal is the one who did the annvraag for me for the exam, but she didn't tell me that I will have to take 3 exams. Could anyone tell me the difference between the Centrale Examen inburgering and the MVV Basisexamen inburgering? And is the rule "36points" score in TGN really applies? My TGN score was only 37 points, but it says on the result that it is "voldoende" (sufficient), and 90 points for KNS, also voldoende. Alstublieft... Ik begriep niet..Kunt u verder uitleggen...
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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby adappel » March 20th, 2010, 2:51 pm

Hello

Sorry to inform you, but Capabeltaal is one of the institutes that has a very bad reputation.
Your teacher should have informed you.
37 points is enough for the level a2.
So there should be not any reason to do the TGN once more.

One other thing is this: you might have had a period of lost and inefficient lessons.
I do not know you, but those who have had more than 3 years secondary school are NOT supposed to follow a course for inburgering.
They are supposed to do a course for Staatsexamen NT2.
I know about many 'nieuwkomers' who are placed in the wrong course.
If you have had more than 3 years secunday education in your own country, please be aware of entering a language-course ( staatsexamen nt2) in stead of ' 'inburgeringscourse'.
If you follow the wrong course, you use your 'inburgerings-money'- ( your budget) and in the end you will discover that your knowledge of the beautiful and difficult Dutch language has not developed a lot.
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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby buitenlandernomore » March 22nd, 2010, 9:21 am

Good day,

Thank you very much for the response.
The inburgering course in capabel taal is a free course supported by the gemeente. I don't know about that staatexamen NT2 that you said, but yes, I have a degree in BS Electronics Engineering in my country, but the gemeente asked me to do inburgering course.

I will ask about it. Thank you for the very helpful information..

Fijne dag. ;D
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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby janenjonnah » March 23rd, 2010, 10:49 pm

Hi. After reading this post, I get confused and wanted to clarrify specially to what adapel mentioned regarding staatsexamen since this coming friday(March 26), I have an appointment with the geemente in response to my request for inburgering course. So they sent me a letter to have an interview on friday so they will know in which level they will put me to class(Starten,Beroepsopleiding,basis taal & samenleving,and Intensieve Taalcursus). I have a Bachelor Degree in my country and as what you mentioned about inburgering and staatsexamen, I'm confused now maybe they will put me to a wrong course. I hope to take the right way.
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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby adappel » March 24th, 2010, 6:34 am

Hello

It is very good that you are alert.
You should NOT accept a inburgeringscourse that will lead you to a inburgeringsexamen, because you will loose your time and you will only gain a lot of frustration.
You are well educated.
You should tell the gemeente, whatever the intaketest might suggest, that you should only go to a program for Staatsexamen, NT2, from the beginning.
Please consider this carefully.
There are many failures in this respect.
Inburgeringscursus+ inburgeringsexamen are only suitable for those who have received less than 10 years of education in their own country.
In many cases the people of the gemeente seem friendly, but in fact they do not consider the interests of the new immigrant.
Also they are not well informed in many cases.
It is good that the users of this site are well informed.
If you live near Haarlem/Heemstede, please contact me by personal mail in order to give you personal advice.

Good luck!
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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby buitenlandernomore » March 24th, 2010, 10:34 am

I think the meeting with the gemeente is just an intakegesprek, initial interview, where they will evaluate your level of knowledge in the language and living rules in nl. I did that, too.. you will even have to take a sort of an evaluation exam with nazeggen, schrijven, and even abstract exam. The abstract exam is for measuring how fast you can learn. The result of the evaluation will be the basis of what course you will take maybe regardless of your educational level, i think. As you don't have enough knowledge of living in the netherlands, like me, then the gemeente sent me to a inburgering course but with sortof a speed class, although not for Staatsexamen. My friend said, that i will still need to do the Staatsexamen but i will need to pay for it not the gemeente. My inburgering course now in capabeltaal is the one supported by the gemeente. If i will take and pass the exam before within term of my course, the gemeente will pay for the exam, but if i will do it after my course then i will be the one to pay for it, according to their letter to me. That applies to every student here in capabeltaal since it is the one supported by the gemeente to provide the course. but ofcourse every student and every gemeente have it's own condition and rules over this things.

Goodluck to all of us!;D
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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby adappel » March 24th, 2010, 12:05 pm

As i explained before: if you are at Capabeltaal - be alerted!
Many persons like 'buitenlandernomore' loose their time: the gemeente makes a lot of fuzz with this intake-course.
In fact these tests cost a lot of money. The money that is spent this way is wasted if they do not offer you the right course.

Buitenlandernomore could have gained a course for preparing for the Staatsexamen nt2 - for free - if he/she would have been better informed before.
There is no argument to accept something for free if the 'gift' is worthless.

If you have good arguments, and if you are well informed, then you can get the right course from the beginning - without loosing your time. As I stated before: people from the gemeente, and especially those from Capabeltaal - have other interests than the immigrant.

Try to get the right course!
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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby buitenlandernomore » March 26th, 2010, 1:13 pm

ok ok, meneer adappel.. :D i completely understand your point and i am thankful for all the informations that you have imparted to us. I have contacted the one incharge in the gemeente about it..but still no reply..you think they will also support my course for the staatsexamen?

fijne weekends.. ;D
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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby adappel » March 26th, 2010, 6:30 pm

I do not know. You can ask the gemeente.
But probably you used your 'ínburgeringsbudget'.
This is the risk for you when the gemeente gives you the free gift of an 'inburgeringscursus'.

Of course most new immigrants cannot know what the whole inburgerings-thing is about ...
But after some months many of them experience that they propably lost their time.

If the gemeente tells you that your budget is spent, then you will still need to pay for your own course.

Good luck.
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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby janenjonnah » March 26th, 2010, 11:52 pm

hello.im done with my appointment just this afternoon & i go for the intensive course..Is it a good choice?
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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby adappel » March 28th, 2010, 7:52 am

If you mean that they offered you a languagecourse to prepare you for Staatsexamen NT2 without doing the " inburgeringsexamen " first - then it is the right step.
Let us hope that you will feel happy in your new school and class.

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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby janenjonnah » March 28th, 2010, 11:51 am

Hi..As being explained by the staff from the Geemente,Intensive Course(which i chose)is in preparation for the Staatsexamen 1&2. The certificate can also be used if i want to proceed and study here in the university.Meanwhile,if i choose the basic taal&samenleving it is in preparation for the examen NT2. i hope its a good one for me.
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Re: Help for centrale examens

Postby arien1178 » August 14th, 2010, 12:28 pm

Goede middag meneer adapple... :))))
I came from Indonesia and i've been stayin here in Nl since about 2.5 months ago.....I got my resident permit already and i did the intake test that is recommended by the gemeente aswell......I must say my dutch is very poor, in my last basis inburgering examen in Indonesia, yes i got 100 for the sociale cultures test but for the language test i got only 38 points.....Anyway, before i took the intake test, the teacher asked my education backrounds and i said i graduated from a medical school in my country......Then he suggested me to take a course for staatsexamen......And i was like, haaa????Is it possible for me, since like i told you before my dutch is very poor, but he really recommended it......So i did the intake test and because im 7.5 months pregnant now, my class will start in January......Do you think i've made the right decissions to take the class???Some of my friends who have stayed longer than me here said the course for the staatsexamen is only for people who can speak Dutch well and live atleast years here, is that true????Im feeling a little worry caused by that......
Waiting for your reply soon......
Hartstikke bedank...... :))))))
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