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Different spellings for same word

Post by Redbeeerd » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:00 pm

I keep coming across similar, but different spellings for the same words. Why are there different spellings, are these different dialects? For example, EN 'devil' = NL duvel, duivel, duyvil, and I believe I have also seen duyvel. Why so many?

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Re: Different spellings for same word

Post by AppelstroopIsLekker » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:16 pm

Redbeeerd wrote:I keep coming across similar, but different spellings for the same words. Why are there different spellings, are these different dialects? For example, EN 'devil' = NL duvel, duivel, duyvil, and I believe I have also seen duyvel. Why so many?
In modern Dutch, there is only one accepted spelling: Duivel. Most of those spellings above are from old dialectical forms of the word "duivel".

It's just like how we sometimes use "Olde Tyme" to mean "Old Time" on products and certain publications to evoke a sort of nostalgia.

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Re: Different spellings for same word

Post by ngonyama » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:23 pm

Duvel is an acceptable, somewhat colloquial word even today, but I agree with Appelstroop: the other forms are obsolete spellings, often from a period (before 1800) that there was no standardization of the spelling yet.

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Re: Different spellings for same word

Post by FANAdeLdF » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:04 pm

The first thing that pops into my mind when I see the spelling "duvel" for duivel is the beer.

As wiki puts it, "Duvel (pronounced [ˈdʏːvəl]) is Brabantian, Ghent and Antwerp dialect for devil, the standard Dutch word being duivel."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duvel_Moortgat_Brewery
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Re: Different spellings for same word

Post by AppelstroopIsLekker » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:37 pm

ngonyama wrote:Duvel is an acceptable, somewhat colloquial word even today, but I agree with Appelstroop: the other forms are obsolete spellings, often from a period (before 1800) that there was no standardization of the spelling yet.
Really? I've never heard duvel used outside either fixed expressions (bvb, een duveltje uit een doosje) or when talking about the beer. :twisted:

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Re: Different spellings for same word

Post by Dave114 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:28 am

Is the difference between "ongelofelijk" and "ongelooflijk" that one of those is an archaic spelling or is there some slight difference that I'm missing?

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Re: Different spellings for same word

Post by ngonyama » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:59 am

Dave114 wrote:Is the difference between "ongelofelijk" and "ongelooflijk" that one of those is an archaic spelling or is there some slight difference that I'm missing?
Both forms occur in present usage and are synonymous.

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Re: Different spellings for same word

Post by Mauss » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:31 pm

it's the same, but the correct spelling is ongelooflijk.

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Re: Different spellings for same word

Post by grizzler » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:08 pm

Actually, they're both correct.

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Re: Different spellings for same word

Post by Mauss » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:49 pm

ow, i didn't know that. i've just never seen it that way.

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