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Hun, Hen & Ze

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Hun, Hen & Ze

Postby Lynn » August 3rd, 2012, 4:42 pm

What is the difference between hun, hen and ze?

If I'm correct, all of them mean "them", isn't it?

Is "hun" for the masculine but "hen" and "ze" for the feminine?

But why must one say
Ze doen hun boodschappen op de markt.
but not
Ze doen hen/ze boodschappen op de markt.

Heel bedankt!
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Re: Hun, Hen & Ze

Postby Quetzal » August 3rd, 2012, 7:47 pm

Lynn wrote:What is the difference between hun, hen and ze?

If I'm correct, all of them mean "them", isn't it?


Not really. "Hun" primarily means "their", the other two don't. And to the extent that "hun" can be used at all for "them", which is debated, it's only as an indirect object. As a direct object, e.g. "Ik zie hun", it's manifestly wrong (which doesn't mean you'll never encounter it...).

Lynn wrote:
Is "hun" for the masculine but "hen" and "ze" for the feminine?

But why must one say
Ze doen hun boodschappen op de markt.
but not
Ze doen hen/ze boodschappen op de markt.

Heel bedankt!


Masculine and feminine have nothing to do with it, no. "Ze" is the word for "they" regardless of gender, and can indeed be used for "them" as direct object as well (not as indirect object). While "hen" is the normal word for "them" both as direct and as indirect object.

And the possessive ("their") is always "hun", which is why your example sentence can only be written with "hun".
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Re: Hun, Hen & Ze

Postby Mauss » August 4th, 2012, 2:48 pm

Even dutch people make mistakes with hun and hen.
They explained it to us at school once, but i forgot.

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Re: Hun, Hen & Ze

Postby Lynn » August 7th, 2012, 1:58 pm

Dank u wel! The explanations helped a lot.
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